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brendanc
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Here are the details:
Angler: George W. Perry
Caught: June 2, 1932
Weight: 22 pounds, 4 ounces
Location: Telfair County, Ga.
Lure: Creek Chub Fintail Shiner
Disposition: Cleaned and eaten
Angler: George W. Perry
Caught: June 2, 1932
Weight: 22 pounds, 4 ounces
Location: Telfair County, Ga.
Lure: Creek Chub Fintail Shiner
Disposition: Cleaned and eaten
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New Bass Record (It's official)
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bonsaibp
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Originally Posted By: geobassDid that weight include the weight of the bluegill in it's stomach?
I don't know about the rest of the Castaic crew but that record won't mean much to me since it was caught in a manner that is illegal in California.
Hey guys I know I'm new here but I do want to clear something up...It is NOT illegal to use a bluegill for bait in CA as long as it came from the same body of water you are using it in. In other words you can't go to Piru and catch a bluegill then bring that to Castaic. But you can catch one at Castaic (haven't seen to many there but I'm sure there are some) and fish with it at Castaic.
I agree that it would seem more of a challenge to catch it on a lure but in no way is using live bait wrong. All of the 18+ lber's that came out of Castaic prior to '94 were taken on live bait.
I think its wrong to impose our way of fishing (using artificals) upon anyone else. Besides using live bait is no garuntee that you'll catch something. I don't have a problem with people using live bait or even taking some bass home to eat. Some times I think bass guys and I'm including myself here tend to look down on others who don't fish like we do, especially if they don't catch and release. Anyhow hope this doesn't ruffle anybodies feathers.
PS Maybe I'll meet up with some of you Castaic crew guys some day. I have probably the only Stealh Bass boat in So. Cal. Its green and white with a 225 VMax on it, say hey if you see me. Have a good day all.
I don't know about the rest of the Castaic crew but that record won't mean much to me since it was caught in a manner that is illegal in California.
Hey guys I know I'm new here but I do want to clear something up...It is NOT illegal to use a bluegill for bait in CA as long as it came from the same body of water you are using it in. In other words you can't go to Piru and catch a bluegill then bring that to Castaic. But you can catch one at Castaic (haven't seen to many there but I'm sure there are some) and fish with it at Castaic.
I agree that it would seem more of a challenge to catch it on a lure but in no way is using live bait wrong. All of the 18+ lber's that came out of Castaic prior to '94 were taken on live bait.
I think its wrong to impose our way of fishing (using artificals) upon anyone else. Besides using live bait is no garuntee that you'll catch something. I don't have a problem with people using live bait or even taking some bass home to eat. Some times I think bass guys and I'm including myself here tend to look down on others who don't fish like we do, especially if they don't catch and release. Anyhow hope this doesn't ruffle anybodies feathers.
PS Maybe I'll meet up with some of you Castaic crew guys some day. I have probably the only Stealh Bass boat in So. Cal. Its green and white with a 225 VMax on it, say hey if you see me. Have a good day all.
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New Bass Record (It's official)
Originally Posted By: bonsaibpOriginally Posted By: geobassDid that weight include the weight of the bluegill in it's stomach?
I don't know about the rest of the Castaic crew but that record won't mean much to me since it was caught in a manner that is illegal in California.
Hey guys I know I'm new here but I do want to clear something up...It is NOT illegal to use a bluegill for bait in CA as long as it came from the same body of water you are using it in. In other words you can't go to Piru and catch a bluegill then bring that to Castaic. But you can catch one at Castaic (haven't seen to many there but I'm sure there are some) and fish with it at Castaic.
I agree that it would seem more of a challenge to catch it on a lure but in no way is using live bait wrong. All of the 18+ lber's that came out of Castaic prior to '94 were taken on live bait.
I think its wrong to impose our way of fishing (using artificals) upon anyone else. Besides using live bait is no garuntee that you'll catch something. I don't have a problem with people using live bait or even taking some bass home to eat. Some times I think bass guys and I'm including myself here tend to look down on others who don't fish like we do, especially if they don't catch and release. Anyhow hope this doesn't ruffle anybodies feathers.
PS Maybe I'll meet up with some of you Castaic crew guys some day. I have probably the only Stealh Bass boat in So. Cal. Its green and white with a 225 VMax on it, say hey if you see me. Have a good day all.
Actually it is illegal. Here is the regulation. No fin fish are allowed to be used except a couple things.
4.10. Bait Fish Use in the Southern
District.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the Southern District:
(a) Dead threadfin shad and live or dead
longjaw mudsucker may be used in all Southern
District waters.
(b) Live threadfin shad may be used only at the
location where taken.
(c) Golden shiner and red shiner may be used
in San Diego County.
I don't know about the rest of the Castaic crew but that record won't mean much to me since it was caught in a manner that is illegal in California.
Hey guys I know I'm new here but I do want to clear something up...It is NOT illegal to use a bluegill for bait in CA as long as it came from the same body of water you are using it in. In other words you can't go to Piru and catch a bluegill then bring that to Castaic. But you can catch one at Castaic (haven't seen to many there but I'm sure there are some) and fish with it at Castaic.
I agree that it would seem more of a challenge to catch it on a lure but in no way is using live bait wrong. All of the 18+ lber's that came out of Castaic prior to '94 were taken on live bait.
I think its wrong to impose our way of fishing (using artificals) upon anyone else. Besides using live bait is no garuntee that you'll catch something. I don't have a problem with people using live bait or even taking some bass home to eat. Some times I think bass guys and I'm including myself here tend to look down on others who don't fish like we do, especially if they don't catch and release. Anyhow hope this doesn't ruffle anybodies feathers.
PS Maybe I'll meet up with some of you Castaic crew guys some day. I have probably the only Stealh Bass boat in So. Cal. Its green and white with a 225 VMax on it, say hey if you see me. Have a good day all.
Actually it is illegal. Here is the regulation. No fin fish are allowed to be used except a couple things.
4.10. Bait Fish Use in the Southern
District.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the Southern District:
(a) Dead threadfin shad and live or dead
longjaw mudsucker may be used in all Southern
District waters.
(b) Live threadfin shad may be used only at the
location where taken.
(c) Golden shiner and red shiner may be used
in San Diego County.
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bonsaibp
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New Bass Record (It's official)
I stand corrected in Castaic you can not use bluegills but in other parts of the state, the Delta, Colorado river and others you can as long as they come from the waters you are fishing.
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Fire Ball
New Bass Record (It's official)
Originally Posted By: bonsaibpI stand corrected in Castaic you can not use bluegills but in other parts of the state, the Delta, Colorado river and others you can as long as they come from the waters you are fishing.
The Colorado River District is the only district that you can use bluegill as bait and they don't have to come from the same body of water. Just posting it up to make sure everyone know the regulations...
Here is the full thing:
4.10. Bait Fish Use in the Southern
District.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the Southern District:
(a) Dead threadfin shad and live or dead
longjaw mudsucker may be used in all Southern
District waters.
(b) Live threadfin shad may be used only at the
location where taken.
(c) Golden shiner and red shiner may be used
in San Diego County.
4.15. Bait Fish Use in the Colorado
River District.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the Colorado River District:
(a) Live or dead golden shiner, fathead minnow,
red shiner, mosquitofish, longjaw mudsucker,
threadfin shad, goldfish, sunfish, molly, and
dead carp may be used in all Colorado River
District waters.
(b) Live carp may be used only at the location
where taken.
(c) Tilapia may be used in the Salton Sea,
and may be taken for bait only within the area
bounded by Highway 111 on the north and east
and Highway 86 on the west and south (except
as in subsection (d) below.
(d) Tilapia may be taken and used for bait in the
Colorado River and its associated backwaters
only within the area bounded by Palo Verde
Diversion Dam south to the Morelos Dam.
NOTE: See subsection 4.05(b).
4.20. Bait Fish Use in the Valley and
South Central Districts.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the Valley or South Central District:
(a) Live or dead golden shiner, fathead minnow,
mosquitofish, longjaw mudsucker, and staghorn
sculpin, and dead threadfin shad, Mississippi
silverside and lamprey may be used in all Valley
and South Central District waters except those
listed in subsection (f) below.
(b) Red shiner may be used only in the Valley
District north of Interstate 580 and Highway
132.
(c) Yellowfin gobies may be used in the
Valley District only in those areas described in
subsections (d)(1)-(3) below.
(d) In addition, except for trout and salmon,
fin fish lawfully taken in the following waters by
angling or with bait fish methods approved in
Section 4.05 may be used only in the waters
where taken:
(1) Carquinez Strait and Suisun Bay and their
tributaries and saltwater tributaries.
(2) Sacramento River and tidewater of
tributaries downstream from the Highway
32 bridge near Hamilton City, Feather River
downstream from the Oroville Hatchery Fish
Barrier Dam, Yuba River downstream from
Daguerre Point Dam, and American River
downstream from Nimbus Dam.
(3) San Joaquin River and tidewater of
tributaries downstream from Interstate 5
bridge.
(e) Live threadfin shad, Mississippi silverside
and lamprey may be used only at the location
where taken.
(f) Fin fish may not be used in Keller Lake
(Glenn Co.), Letts Lake (Colusa Co.), Merced
Lake (San Francisco Co.), Upper and Lower
Plaskett Meadow Ponds (Glenn Co.), Whale
Rock Reservoir (San Luis Obispo Co.).
4.25. Bait Fish Use in the North
Central District.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the North Central District:
(a) Golden shiner, fathead minnow, red shiner,
mosquitofish, longjaw mudsucker and staghorn
sculpin may be used in Napa and Sonoma
counties, in Marin County except for Stafford
Lake, in Lake County except for the Eel River
and its tributaries, and in Lake Mendocino
(Mendocino Co.).
(b) Live threadfin shad, Mississippi silverside
and lamprey may be used only at the location
where taken.
4.30. Bait Fish Use in the Sierra and
North Coast Districts.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the Sierra and North Coast Districts.
(a) In Donner, Fallen Leaf and Tahoe lakes
Lahontan redside, tui chub, Tahoe sucker,
Lahontan speckled dace, mountain sucker and
Paiute sculpin may be used only in the same
lake where taken.
(b) In Shasta Lake only golden shiner, red
shiner, fathead minnows, mosquitofish and
threadfin shad may be used or possessed for
use as bait.
(c) Crayfish shall not be used for bait in the
Pit River and all tributaries between Pit 3 Dam
(Lake Britton) and the Fall River-Cassel Road
Bridge at Fall River Mills, California (includes
Hat Creek and Fall River and their tributaries).
The Colorado River District is the only district that you can use bluegill as bait and they don't have to come from the same body of water. Just posting it up to make sure everyone know the regulations...
Here is the full thing:
4.10. Bait Fish Use in the Southern
District.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the Southern District:
(a) Dead threadfin shad and live or dead
longjaw mudsucker may be used in all Southern
District waters.
(b) Live threadfin shad may be used only at the
location where taken.
(c) Golden shiner and red shiner may be used
in San Diego County.
4.15. Bait Fish Use in the Colorado
River District.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the Colorado River District:
(a) Live or dead golden shiner, fathead minnow,
red shiner, mosquitofish, longjaw mudsucker,
threadfin shad, goldfish, sunfish, molly, and
dead carp may be used in all Colorado River
District waters.
(b) Live carp may be used only at the location
where taken.
(c) Tilapia may be used in the Salton Sea,
and may be taken for bait only within the area
bounded by Highway 111 on the north and east
and Highway 86 on the west and south (except
as in subsection (d) below.
(d) Tilapia may be taken and used for bait in the
Colorado River and its associated backwaters
only within the area bounded by Palo Verde
Diversion Dam south to the Morelos Dam.
NOTE: See subsection 4.05(b).
4.20. Bait Fish Use in the Valley and
South Central Districts.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the Valley or South Central District:
(a) Live or dead golden shiner, fathead minnow,
mosquitofish, longjaw mudsucker, and staghorn
sculpin, and dead threadfin shad, Mississippi
silverside and lamprey may be used in all Valley
and South Central District waters except those
listed in subsection (f) below.
(b) Red shiner may be used only in the Valley
District north of Interstate 580 and Highway
132.
(c) Yellowfin gobies may be used in the
Valley District only in those areas described in
subsections (d)(1)-(3) below.
(d) In addition, except for trout and salmon,
fin fish lawfully taken in the following waters by
angling or with bait fish methods approved in
Section 4.05 may be used only in the waters
where taken:
(1) Carquinez Strait and Suisun Bay and their
tributaries and saltwater tributaries.
(2) Sacramento River and tidewater of
tributaries downstream from the Highway
32 bridge near Hamilton City, Feather River
downstream from the Oroville Hatchery Fish
Barrier Dam, Yuba River downstream from
Daguerre Point Dam, and American River
downstream from Nimbus Dam.
(3) San Joaquin River and tidewater of
tributaries downstream from Interstate 5
bridge.
(e) Live threadfin shad, Mississippi silverside
and lamprey may be used only at the location
where taken.
(f) Fin fish may not be used in Keller Lake
(Glenn Co.), Letts Lake (Colusa Co.), Merced
Lake (San Francisco Co.), Upper and Lower
Plaskett Meadow Ponds (Glenn Co.), Whale
Rock Reservoir (San Luis Obispo Co.).
4.25. Bait Fish Use in the North
Central District.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the North Central District:
(a) Golden shiner, fathead minnow, red shiner,
mosquitofish, longjaw mudsucker and staghorn
sculpin may be used in Napa and Sonoma
counties, in Marin County except for Stafford
Lake, in Lake County except for the Eel River
and its tributaries, and in Lake Mendocino
(Mendocino Co.).
(b) Live threadfin shad, Mississippi silverside
and lamprey may be used only at the location
where taken.
4.30. Bait Fish Use in the Sierra and
North Coast Districts.
Except as provided below, live or dead fin fish
shall not be used or possessed for use as bait
in the Sierra and North Coast Districts.
(a) In Donner, Fallen Leaf and Tahoe lakes
Lahontan redside, tui chub, Tahoe sucker,
Lahontan speckled dace, mountain sucker and
Paiute sculpin may be used only in the same
lake where taken.
(b) In Shasta Lake only golden shiner, red
shiner, fathead minnows, mosquitofish and
threadfin shad may be used or possessed for
use as bait.
(c) Crayfish shall not be used for bait in the
Pit River and all tributaries between Pit 3 Dam
(Lake Britton) and the Fall River-Cassel Road
Bridge at Fall River Mills, California (includes
Hat Creek and Fall River and their tributaries).
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bonsaibp
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d) In addition, except for trout and salmon,
fin fish lawfully taken in the following waters by
angling or with bait fish methods approved in
Section 4.05 may be used only in the waters
where taken:
(1) Carquinez Strait and Suisun Bay and their
tributaries and saltwater tributaries.
(2) Sacramento River and tidewater of
tributaries downstream from the Highway
32 bridge near Hamilton City, Feather River
downstream from the Oroville Hatchery Fish
Barrier Dam, Yuba River downstream from
Daguerre Point Dam, and American River
downstream from Nimbus Dam.
(3) San Joaquin River and tidewater of
tributaries downstream from Interstate 5
bridge.
See 4.20 d 1-3 that includes the delta.
In any case my point is that we shouldn't look down on someone for using live bait.
What gets me about the whole thing is that its only a tie. Bigger is bigger but according to IGFA for records under 25lbs a fish has to weigh at least 2 ozs more to beat the record, that I don't get more is more if its a half ounce or a pound.
It would be nice if they would seperate it into 2 catogories live bait and artifical but the rules are the rules.
fin fish lawfully taken in the following waters by
angling or with bait fish methods approved in
Section 4.05 may be used only in the waters
where taken:
(1) Carquinez Strait and Suisun Bay and their
tributaries and saltwater tributaries.
(2) Sacramento River and tidewater of
tributaries downstream from the Highway
32 bridge near Hamilton City, Feather River
downstream from the Oroville Hatchery Fish
Barrier Dam, Yuba River downstream from
Daguerre Point Dam, and American River
downstream from Nimbus Dam.
(3) San Joaquin River and tidewater of
tributaries downstream from Interstate 5
bridge.
See 4.20 d 1-3 that includes the delta.
In any case my point is that we shouldn't look down on someone for using live bait.
What gets me about the whole thing is that its only a tie. Bigger is bigger but according to IGFA for records under 25lbs a fish has to weigh at least 2 ozs more to beat the record, that I don't get more is more if its a half ounce or a pound.
It would be nice if they would seperate it into 2 catogories live bait and artifical but the rules are the rules.
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brendanc
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I see the bigger point that BonsaiBP is making about "not looking down on anglers who use live bait". I agree with you man... in the end it's all about having a good time out there.
As for the regulations, every angler is responsible for knowing the rules and regs for anyplace that they fish. I have seen guys disagree over points on these boards regarding regulations many times before... in the end, who gets the ticket? The guy who didn't have his facts straight... although most everyone on the boards have good intentions, we all can make mistakes even when we mean well. So again, some good advice would be to always check directly with the source and confirm with that source that you understand what they are stating.
Which brings up one other thing to keep in mind... many of these regulations can get confusing to read, so if you are not sure what the rule means... get clarification directly from the source.
As for the record, they make the rules...
Again I agree with you BonsaiBP, more is more...
As for the regulations, every angler is responsible for knowing the rules and regs for anyplace that they fish. I have seen guys disagree over points on these boards regarding regulations many times before... in the end, who gets the ticket? The guy who didn't have his facts straight... although most everyone on the boards have good intentions, we all can make mistakes even when we mean well. So again, some good advice would be to always check directly with the source and confirm with that source that you understand what they are stating.
Which brings up one other thing to keep in mind... many of these regulations can get confusing to read, so if you are not sure what the rule means... get clarification directly from the source.
As for the record, they make the rules...
Again I agree with you BonsaiBP, more is more...
Brendan C.